Category: the Rant Board
hi, lou again.
I am a bit upset with those users. They just say bad words, obscene things that are not good for a blind, or I guess so.
I don't know what to do with them but... OK, let them act like a donkey!
If this make you laugh, tickle your "fancy" or just are OK with me, feel free to repply to this post, or send me a private note
Any help will be apreciated.
But please! lets make the zone a bit more logic.
the zone is not ran in a way where people are constantly monitored, and it has never claimed to be a family oriented site. Some users will curse, and your just going to have to deal with that. Not everyone here is 11 years old.
Ok... if that is the concept I guess I have to deal with it.
but i preffer to be adviced or something so that I can avoid thosee anoying things
You can always ignore a user if you cannot handle them when they say words you don't like. You can choose not to ignore them later by going into your account settings and removing them from your ignore list. That is one way for you to keep yourself protected if you feel the need to do so.
as quoted from the main page
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Please note that we do not censor our members thoughts, and believe in freedom of speech. There are options to ignore mass instant messages if you wish
to utilize them, and we encourage you to make your own decisions as to what you view as acceptable content. We are not your parents.
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Exactly, there's always other sites you can choose for more family oriented stuff, and I couldn't agree more, this site doesn't, and I repete doesn't clame to be a family oriented site. There's the old saying, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
OK, got it. Thanks melodica. I got it now, thats why I were a bit upset with. If there are freedom of speech here, well, I will accept it as a normal thing if I have to.
Frankly, I'm glad for being allowed such freedom. I've been on too many e-mail lists, for example, where they intend to make it a family atmosphere. That may work for some people, but not for me. I think in some cases we as blind people already have a reputation for being kind of uptight, squeemish, conservative, overly religious and just plain boring. Offending a few people is the price you pay for freedom of speech, and if foul language is so bothersome or sexual content or what have you, it may not be the place for you.
Couldn't agree more. Finally we actually got a site where we can say what ever we want about anything we want and won't be band, chritisized, prevented and so on...I too been on to many websites, mailing lists, blind online comunitties even IRC servers whre you're meant to act like some kind of person with no opinions, no wright to say what I want to. All this crap that just because we're blind that we're not meant to talk about anything like sex or sware orwhat ever just pises me off. As already said, who ever doesnb't like what's said here, don't read it/ignore the user you think offend you, or just get the fuck out of here! Maybe a bit harsh, but I don't care, after all no1 is making any1 read anything on here and every can choos to ignore anything they don't want to read and you have been warned on the homepage that this can happen.
what part of "got it" you could not understand?
and are you going to post something clear or just paste it from the website?
I now have understood this, please.
So now you are free for saying bad things, OK, I will let it go.
and... who things blind is religious or something like that, if you want, look at my profile, and don't say anything that is not true.
I will not say more for now.
dude, come on! Get real! Get over it! I mean ppl swear, they say bad things and like it or not, some situations actually call for it. Quit complaining and live your life...Oh, and as for you understandings? "You are free to say bad things."? the fuck? I mean who are you? my fucking mom? since you don't seem old enough to be, no one needs your aproval! fuck off and live your life!
Oh, I meant that in the nicest way possible btw
People like this jackoff make me do the things that I do. Thin-skinned assholes that want the world to revolve around them. Get over it, quit your crying, or go let your mom hold you while you suck your thumb for three hours because "the bad people on the zone are saying naughty words". Eat my shit.
unfortunately, this people don't think about anything, oh, poor, they don't think in themselves. If you are going to say it as you did, get out now!
and please, don't ruine you lives
I am so... I don't know, what to say? bla, bnla, bla!
just... I wanted a bit of respect but if you cannot give it, get out, you suck! really, is better respect... well and savanna are you going to say to all your familiars fuck you?
that you don't have something else to do?
go away and stop wasting your time
If it's clean chat you want, then might I suggest www.eyes2eyes.com, they have a forum called epals that's more a family oriented place. Anyway it's nobody elce's fault but your own for not reading the site polisy carefully, if you did then you'd know this wasn't intended to be a family oriented site. In case you haven't noticed most of the clients on here are over 18, with a couple exceptions, but you get the idea.
Hey I am not a fan of swearing at all myself either - being brought up totally and dead-set against it. I am not a fan of hearing that kind of language especially when it's just happening in general chatter. I don't feel it necessary, but I have learnt to be able to ignore it and take people for what they are. I feel a lot of people say a lot of this stuff, purely without knowing the intensity of it because it's how, perhaps they've been brought up.
This site has got a disclaimer on the front page - as many people have said. But I don't believe you've been treated very fairly here Lou. I mean this is not fair! Where's the respect gone? A lot of the cursing and flaming responding to Lou's post was *not necessary, especially as it has been made clear that he finds it offensive.
Show some damn respect for others please?!
Lou does have a right to express an opinion (even though he may not have noticed the disclaimer).
Let's show respect for each other. Let's not flame and attack!
But just know that this is not a family site. We'll get all sorts of kids on here with a range of opinions!
Cheers!
Just because he I sware It deoesn't mean I'm not respectible person. After all, we don't have to like and respect every1, it's just the way world is. I respect and like people that I think deserve it, I don't want to and sure don't expect to everyone to like and respect me, yeah it's not nice, but it's the real world, it's realitty. There are some total arseholes in the world and there are people outthere who'd do a lot more nasty things than write a few swarewords on a messageboards, so stop taking everything so damn seriously. I'm actually a very nice person, but obviously I can't and don't like everyone, it's just the way it is. Well, when I say nice, what the hell does it really mean. What really makes someone a nice person, a nice person to me might be something totally different what soemone else thinks a nice person, that's why I try to avoid it, although I do know a few people that I would call a nice person because in one way or another they mean something to me. Going back to the point of this discussion, this is a messageboard, to be honest as much as it's nice to be treated nice and people to have respect for me, I don't and realisticly can't expect every1 to be like that, so, if some people did treat me like shit on here, I'd just have to deal with it, just like in real world in real life, after all, most importantly for me is, as much as I like meeting new people and making new friends, I also know that I have some very good and very close friends on and offline, including some very nice people on here, of course. Despite of what I said, I don't want people to think that I'm some kind of nast person, but hey, check my profile and contact me/ask me about anything you want, I can't guaranty that you'll like me, but as I said, I've made a few friends on here, so I can't be that bad. Sorry for kinda slightly going off topic at times in this post and making in to my own personal thing a bit, but I just got inspired to write all this by what was posted on here.
Laters
hmmm, this might continue really interesting.
Someone is this way, others are different, who knows... I will wait, this seems to increase... lol
Okay, if you all would notice, he posted this topic in the Bash Board. That would mean to everyone that he started the flame throwing competition, in which he subsequently lost. If he is going to throw shit at the people who like to express thoughts, feelings, etc. by using "bad words" and saying "obscene things", then he should have expected to have his bashing returned to him. If he does not like, well tough noogies. As formentioned, there are other alternatives that are more of a "clean family fun" and he should utilize them instead of coming onto this site trying to be the internet police. There is no 18-wheeler tied to his ass to make him stay.
hey... internetKing, why do you think thats natural? one think is being unconcidered, (well, my english is not so good, as you have noticed), but one of thinking the world is that way, I disagree with that. Sorry, but thats true. I mean, why consider it like that? the world can be changed, in another words, you are wrong thinking that thats the way and that noone can change it. I sometimes accept with disclaimers, but it doesn't mean that I can agree with this so much. OK, the freedom of speech is good, but not for being "rude" if I can call it. You have the freedom of speech, but it doesn't mean that you necesarily have to reach a point where you can make others insane, specially if you don't know who is the person that you are talking with. Swear sometimes is good, but not all the time. It makes others anoying, and for those who don't understand, things are good, but not in excesive.
the bass board is just for that, re-read the description again, please. This was supposeddly to say bad words in someone's thaughts, but I'm sorry saying I didn't started this tread.
I am just upset with it. I think, if not I really am the person that believes himself the internet police. But initially, this was an opinion. I know this site is freedom of speech, I know you have it, I know you like this site for that, but to me its unfair that you just think I am stopping you. I just don't consider it, as some people do.
And its unfair just because i don't like it, and others either refuse it, doesn't mean I am the internet police. Is fine to do jokes, swearing at some good times, but it doesn't mean that you can do it all the time. OK, I went too much, but... still
first of all, I am sorry for all those messages I have writen. But... analicing stuff again, I think really, "we don't have to like and respect eachother". What? hello? those are "basic social behavior rules". You cannot say "fuck you" at any person you like. And... I know, all 18 agers are weird, all with the same things, they think they are free, just because they are 18. Being 18 yeards old doesn't mean we can sey anything to wathever person, I tthink it means that "AS WE ARE 18, WE SHOULD GIVE OTHERS AN EXAMPLE".
And if you are not OK with it or disagree with that, "go to a place where you can grow up"
yes, I learned it myself. Sounds extrange, but... being 18 is not the most exciting thing.
I know that there will be a lot of "rude" people, disagreeing with it, but... just think about it.
lou, I am with you on this. I turned off mass quick notes just because of the reason you're talking about, unfortunately, there is not a way to put people's posts on the boards on ignore. I still have private notes on, because quick notes would be nice, if I have someone decent to talk to, but i turned quick notes off for that reason. like you, i feel we can express an opinion without attacking each other, or cursing with every single word. You're absolutely right, stick to your guns. you have as much right to express your opinion as everyone else has, and you have the right one, and don't let anyone convince you, that you have to be vulgar, and curse to be interesting. I'm glad to see that someone feels as you do, stick to your guns.
wonderwoman
thanks, sure, I'll do that. I don't know why you must be bulgar for being interesting, thats a really stupid idea.
"do unto others as you would have done to you"
you cannot judge people just because they are not of your matchin
The Zone doesn't claim to be a family-oriented website. It's worth saying that it also doesn't claim to be the opposite. It's turning out to be an interesting reflection of the real world, which is perhaps best of all.
bingo! I think, you are right
I'm a realist, so I look at it this way. You can't and won't please everybody, and also they can't and won't please you all the time either. Get used to this because it's the human condition. Would life be better if we were all clean-cut, held the same exact values and beliefs and whatnot? Probably, but it would be quite boring after a while. It's like writing a story where there's no conflict or plot twist. Also, being offended by words is peanuts compared to what people can really do to each other if they see fit. These days I'm surprised people can even carry on a conversation without lawyers present to assure nobody is offended. I would rather all people reading this post offended me rather than killed me, as I can get over offence.
You know Lou you're getting on my nerves so I'm gonna say my piece and give you some good old fashioned advise.
There are some people here that ARE eleven, and younger. I think that we should at least keep the obseen language a little bit more to ourselvs... or something! I've had to ignor many users already for that. Now. If there is noone else that agrees with us, then I'll just keep trying to ignor, and make my views heard.
thats I wanted to hear. There are young people in this site and they at least should be respected.
OK. My views on this are in another thread, but a couple of points to reiterate.
If you want a family-friendly board, a kids board, etc, you just have to ask for it.
We're always receptive to ideas like this and don't have a problem with it.
Also, I think the response that you got here as opposed to bringing this up in the Zone BBS suggestions forum which is more designed for things like this is much because of where it was posted. A lesson learned for the future, perhaps.
Again, if anyone who thinks this is a problem has any concrete things that we could do, post them on the suggestions board or PM an admin.
I just needed to voice my opinion
I am feeling bad because I stopped everyone, or I think so. I now that swearing is bad. Ok... its good between friends, but it in a longer time botters me
why? I am just weird being as I am an noebody get with me. Just some people. As I said there is no need to swear in order to have a smart conversation but unfortunately some people don't understand!
sorry for being that bored way
Lou, please quit bothering us about the swearing and go masturbate. We don't care anymmore what your opinion is because you beat it into the ground. You are so mentally retarded that Special Olympics would not allow you to participate. Good day, sir (and I use the term "sir" very loosely, just like your mom).
go away and stop wasting your time!
and yes, that little joke you did with your friend was part of an inrespectuous cause. As you have noticed that I ignored you you are worse, you are mentally handycaped. You require others help to get a message to me? do it when the life comes to you again.
and just keep talking, I am able to ignore you. And if you'll continue with this... there is another step I could take.
You better be careful
um, alright, I like to swear as much as anyone! But at the same time I think what you said was as immature as him bitching about us swearing!
CaptainBlinky, wow, I have never seen such verbal diarrhea. I know this is the bash boards, and I know this is a senseative subject for most of you. Dam though, your worse then a politician. Could you sling the mud any harder? Pretty low, attacking the man's mom. This site is a bouble edged sword, yes we can say whatever we like. So, that means if Lue decides he wants to post this blurb about curseing, then that's ok. I think we should just put this thread to rest, I can't beleive that you people became an angery mob over something so trivial as quote please don't curse end quote. Is this a reflection of the world around us? Did all of you really think because of this one post that the admins were going to say, gee we were all wrong, lets change what the site stands for? This is a gol darn shame!
Tough shit, get over it.
hum, what to say? they just don't know how to read. They just came up across the board and see the last three posts. If they did read everything they shouldn't say that.
I won't get into the zone anymore. This place has became to... well, I better don't say it
Okay, let's stop beating this topic in to the ground now, please? Just like in the real world, when u don't like someone's swaring, u just ignore them, and I'm afraid that u will have to apply that concept here. People do things that I don't like, but u know what? I just ignore them altogether. If I ever came across a show that I thaught was stupid, do u know what I would do? I would change the channel and not watch that program instead of wining about it. This is because there r ppl who do obviously enjoy that program so why should I ruin it for them? I will stop watching that program, and if enough ppl stop watching it, well, it'll get taken off the air. So, think of this whole thing on the zone from the same angle. It bothers down to either putting up or shutting up.
well, another good point came here... (sometimes I like to botter people) as someone said this is getting old and boring... well, I think this post.... is the final one?
I am suprised at some people on this site. Attacking someone just because they would like you to try to stop using as much foul language when he is around. I mean how hard could that really be. I know i am going to get hell for posting this but dont get mad for me posting this because as someone said this site is not posted so i should be able to pst this if thats true.
well, you are right. You have freedom of speech, which is a right granted to you. You can say wathever you want. I don't care if I get kicked out of the zone for saying this. I don't care if I will get with the police. Respect is something everyone needs and there is no need to atack others. Unfortunately many users on here are not showing it.
i mean this site is not sensored so i should be able to post this.
I am geting f**king tired of reading this f**king postd! Will it ever f**king end?
the final stop is here!
well, I got tired myself for posting in this topic. I've decided to stop watching this chanel. Thanks kc8pnl, you are a good guy (although you swear a little, or I think so).
No more topic discusion.
I'll deal with it even if one of you get me in a unstoppable insanity degree... I won't talk more about this. So everyone can just sit back and continue as normal. Sorry for all those anoyances. I was dump since I did this post.
Now just go away from this topic, and continue enjoying the zone, as before... I just will turn mass quicknotes of if something about swearing is coming up, and will turn them on latter when the topic ends...
so now, this topic is gone.
aaaaaa! should I did this previous post? hahahahahhaha!
Hi Lou. John here. I have some advice for you. *Smile* Know who your friends are. Talk to those people who you view as good. You want to know something else, buddy? It is only the people whom you love and that love you who counts. Think about it, the people who like you as a friend, will except you any way that you are. That is a promiss from me. I do agree with Lou in that swareing is not a good thing. I, personally don't do it much myself, however I can't stop the rest of the world from doing so. I for one would not mind a board on here without the language. I realize that perhaps there may not be many people who agree with me, so therefor it wil not happen. But for those of us who don't agree with all of the swareing, there should be an option on here too, I feel. You are a good guy. Lou. God bless and take care. Don't let this get to you, buddy. *Smile* John
I think people who use bad language or talk about bad/stupid topics are just showing what they're made off. I think using bad language excessively and continuously shows lack of taste style and character or, of course, a very twisted sense of humor. I mean, it's not offensive to me, per say, even if I find it irritating and the whole gay and f*ck discussions using whatever body parts that have a hole in them very boring and not at all funny, but, hey, if people enjoy it it's not my place to judge, I just find that I have nothing in common with those people and it's probably true and they won't have anythig in common with me so, should be pretty fine all around. Freedom of speech comes with some responsibility and there's not point in using swear words just because you can but if you feel like using swear words you're absolutey entitled to do so.
well... first... to let all of you know, maybe older users may be killing me if they see this topic again, in the topics with new posts in the boards. But there are some new users. I just want to know their opinions on this. Oh, and thx John for that.
Well one thing for me is being obscene which is talking about the gay parts and all that, and other thing is swearing. I mean I don't get easily down if someone says something like
this damn school is so fucking annoying!
I just ignore it, but if its about others, or about you and continuously, I would ratter quit out of the zone since I can do more things than staying here.
thanks for letting me express my opinions.